tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post587299298248073530..comments2024-02-20T20:28:00.097+13:00Comments on Scott's War-gaming: ACW with Fire & FuryScottswargaminghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00581220877007982139noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-41672558676963014932012-05-25T01:39:27.298+12:002012-05-25T01:39:27.298+12:00That's what I suggest you do and hopefully it ...That's what I suggest you do and hopefully it works out for you this time.:-)<br /><br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-58484552452197766112012-05-24T09:07:55.273+12:002012-05-24T09:07:55.273+12:00Thanks for your continued feedback Chris, its inte...Thanks for your continued feedback Chris, its interesting to wonder if these changes would have made any difference to our game...<br />If disordered units were disordered again by further shooting, they'd be losing stands, so that would probably be a few more units that would have been 'damaged', but I dont think that would have got us to 'break point'. Still it might be worth another look...Scottswargaminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00581220877007982139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-81695338635894689842012-05-24T00:11:39.056+12:002012-05-24T00:11:39.056+12:00Also there are army break points and other new add...Also there are army break points and other new additions that improve game flow. I recommend trying it again using Regimental F&F and if that still doesn't work for you then move on to other systems.<br />I hope this proves somewhat useful and happy gaming! <br /><br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-41101295313989422852012-05-23T23:23:14.742+12:002012-05-23T23:23:14.742+12:00Well that would have helped a bit as we definitley...Well that would have helped a bit as we definitley had cases where a disordered unit was hit and just disordered again, which was very frustratiing to the firer...Scottswargaminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00581220877007982139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-83406146864129174292012-05-23T21:46:29.308+12:002012-05-23T21:46:29.308+12:00The reason is a few rules have been streamlined an...The reason is a few rules have been streamlined and new ones added in Regimental Fire and Fury that have improved the game. For example units already disordered that become disordered again suffer a casualty instead of just staying disordered.<br /><br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-75324169878125868092012-05-23T10:45:06.543+12:002012-05-23T10:45:06.543+12:00Hi Chris, I think it was regular Fire & Fury, ...Hi Chris, I think it was regular Fire & Fury, it was an old-ish looking rule book, with a blue cover I think...Scottswargaminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00581220877007982139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-60389841056795980782012-05-23T01:18:23.607+12:002012-05-23T01:18:23.607+12:00Did you play regular Fire and Fury or Regimental F...Did you play regular Fire and Fury or Regimental Fire and Fury?<br /><br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-50857049120411713572012-05-22T09:22:23.829+12:002012-05-22T09:22:23.829+12:00Guys thanks for your comments and feedback. Yes it...Guys thanks for your comments and feedback. Yes it was a visually appealling game. Steve has piles of ACW figures, many of which he aquired from Paul Crouch, another of the founding Fusiliers, who I believe now resides somewhere in Aussie...<br /><br />As you say 'horses for courses' I guess... its just all the games of Black Powder I have played have been fast, fluid and fun, with a result within the allotted time, even with large armies and multiple players involved (see recent SYW game report)<br /><br />This games was relatively small with several players per side and an umpire, and we still failed to reach a definite result after 4 hours of play...<br /><br />Plus I find the single dice mechanism too open to chance... most of the gamse shooting had been by typically 3-6 elements at a time, which all that was doing was causeing the aforementioned disorder. When the Yankees finally got 20 elements in position to pour weight of fire on a single Reb unit, they rolled that one on the dice. <br /><br />I felt like packing up then, but we played another turn, and still nothing much happened in the next turn that we played, another low dice roll, resulting in "lively fire" - Jeez it was anything but 'lively'...<br /><br />I also wasn't a huge fan on the idea my opponent gets to shoot at me before me, in my game turn, and similarly I shoot at hime first in his game turn.... I can see the reasoning behind it I guess, but I found it frustrating and confusing... often losing track of which point we were at in the game...<br /><br />I'm sure Black Powder would have played better in a more dynamic fashion, and would have seen units breaking and fleeing the field, as weight of fire effects and melees ensued, and thus been a more enjoyable game for all involved.<br />It may not be the 'simulation style' game others may like, but my experience of these more simulations style games has often been rather dull...<br /><br />Black Powder can also be tweaked for those who wish to, such as limiting some of the extremes of movement, alternating fire order too I guess could be done, to give what a player feels a more period specific feel...Scottswargaminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00581220877007982139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-87298808189656021712012-05-22T01:30:41.841+12:002012-05-22T01:30:41.841+12:00I'm surprised you feel that way as I've al...I'm surprised you feel that way as I've always found Fire and Fury to be a fluid game and quite action packed. It's my favourite rule set for ACW and always ranks in my top 3 overall depending on what I'm really into at the time. All that said I understand different tastes for each person. Board looks nice btw.<br /><br />ChristopherChristopher(aka Axebreaker)https://www.blogger.com/profile/13205928451375232865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-60525021213558377572012-05-21T23:14:57.866+12:002012-05-21T23:14:57.866+12:00We have used F&F for years and now Regimental ...We have used F&F for years and now Regimental F&F. We use BP as well but F&F will still be our choice over BP for AWI and ACW. Everyone to their own I guess. Great photos Scott and the game looked great too.Rodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14447816347472085277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33886045.post-25927479998190023662012-05-21T20:37:35.303+12:002012-05-21T20:37:35.303+12:00Fire and Fury are not to everyone's taste, we ...Fire and Fury are not to everyone's taste, we use them all the time for large games. They are totally dice orientated and can lead to a whole lotta frustration. Hence my blog title!!!!Ray Rousellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07352596392520905197noreply@blogger.com